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	<title>Comments for My Suburban Destiny</title>
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		<title>Comment on Ute-lite, an idea for a constructed language by Dirk</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=652&#038;cpage=1#comment-1348</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There’s a new edition of Givón’s grammar available now—published by John Benjamins. The Texts should be out this summer (and the Dictionary two years from now, I suppose). The new grammar is a vast improvement over the old one, but it’s still not very user-friendly and all but ignores the fascinating phonology of the language, as did the previous version. At least he made better orthographic choices (but still not great ones).

While I sympathize with the desire for “Ute-lite”, as a field linguist I think it would be a shame if the only thing that survived of the language was such a stripped-down version. Better than nothing, I suppose, but still ... 

I do heartily endorse the effort as an intellectual challenge, however. I’ve played around with something like “Numic-lite” for a couple of years now, and it’s helped me to understand the Numic languages better. Professionally I focus on phonology (first Shoshone/Goshute—my dissertation was on the consonant phonology of Goshute); “Numic-lite” has forced me to come to grips with grammar as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s a new edition of Givón’s grammar available now—published by John Benjamins. The Texts should be out this summer (and the Dictionary two years from now, I suppose). The new grammar is a vast improvement over the old one, but it’s still not very user-friendly and all but ignores the fascinating phonology of the language, as did the previous version. At least he made better orthographic choices (but still not great ones).</p>
<p>While I sympathize with the desire for “Ute-lite”, as a field linguist I think it would be a shame if the only thing that survived of the language was such a stripped-down version. Better than nothing, I suppose, but still &#8230; </p>
<p>I do heartily endorse the effort as an intellectual challenge, however. I’ve played around with something like “Numic-lite” for a couple of years now, and it’s helped me to understand the Numic languages better. Professionally I focus on phonology (first Shoshone/Goshute—my dissertation was on the consonant phonology of Goshute); “Numic-lite” has forced me to come to grips with grammar as well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reading Toki Pona is Hard by jan Kitope (chuff)</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=845&#038;cpage=1#comment-1340</link>
		<dc:creator>jan Kitope (chuff)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 04:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you interested in developing/brainstorming workarounds for (some of) these?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you interested in developing/brainstorming workarounds for (some of) these?</p>
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		<title>Comment on My toki pona to do list by Chris Huff</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=842&#038;cpage=1#comment-1306</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Huff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can I get in on some of this? :)
(Especially the phrase dictionary and/or tweet stream)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can I get in on some of this? :)<br />
(Especially the phrase dictionary and/or tweet stream)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Locally Dead Languages, like French, and What they&#8217;ve in common with Conlangs. by Neicen</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=744&#038;cpage=1#comment-1267</link>
		<dc:creator>Neicen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linguistic pedagogy is horrible. There are all sorts of half-known swami moves that will get you to the right place (e.g. Heisig for learning the Kanji, Madrigal&#039;s for Spanish) but when your dominant culture is trying to make you and the rest of the world monoglots it&#039;s not easy. The only way I found of listening to French tho was thru Librivox.

Memrise would be good if it weren&#039;t so slow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linguistic pedagogy is horrible. There are all sorts of half-known swami moves that will get you to the right place (e.g. Heisig for learning the Kanji, Madrigal&#8217;s for Spanish) but when your dominant culture is trying to make you and the rest of the world monoglots it&#8217;s not easy. The only way I found of listening to French tho was thru Librivox.</p>
<p>Memrise would be good if it weren&#8217;t so slow.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Measuring myself by Sonja</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=965&#038;cpage=1#comment-900</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 00:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sina wile ala wile toki lon ilo Skype?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sina wile ala wile toki lon ilo Skype?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Measuring myself by Sonja</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=965&#038;cpage=1#comment-899</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 00:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sina pona :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sina pona :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fell in love with a girl by pia</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=921&#038;cpage=1#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator>pia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhymes with pompeii, black hair, vegan fondue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhymes with pompeii, black hair, vegan fondue?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Conlangs and Online Communities by Cody Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=770&#038;cpage=1#comment-897</link>
		<dc:creator>Cody Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 01:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s actually a really great Conlanger&#039;s group on Facebook that doesn&#039;t have any trolls at all. The biggest argument that happened there, as I recall, was a small back-and-forth between 2 of the members about auxlangs or something. 
http://www.facebook.com/groups/conlangs/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s actually a really great Conlanger&#8217;s group on Facebook that doesn&#8217;t have any trolls at all. The biggest argument that happened there, as I recall, was a small back-and-forth between 2 of the members about auxlangs or something.<br />
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/groups/conlangs/" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/groups/conlangs/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Things I wish I&#8217;d starting doing soon in 2nd Language Learning by Leonardo Boiko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonardo Boiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with most, but those days I’ve became skeptical of things like 2 and 5.  My current list is:

 - Spend less time with flashcards
 - Not worry about drilling
 - Not worry about “getting the basics well”
 - Spend more time actually doing the stuff you wanted to do with the language in the first place (reading literature, etc), even if (especially if!) your knowledge is incomplete</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with most, but those days I’ve became skeptical of things like 2 and 5.  My current list is:</p>
<p> &#8211; Spend less time with flashcards<br />
 &#8211; Not worry about drilling<br />
 &#8211; Not worry about “getting the basics well”<br />
 &#8211; Spend more time actually doing the stuff you wanted to do with the language in the first place (reading literature, etc), even if (especially if!) your knowledge is incomplete</p>
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		<title>Comment on Toki pona: Insults by matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fix that and a few others mistakes. I wrote that post long ago, I guess I&#039;ve gotten better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fix that and a few others mistakes. I wrote that post long ago, I guess I&#8217;ve gotten better.</p>
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